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Thurro
01-29-2007, 11:24 AM
Okay, I've been into cars for as long as I can remember and can do alot with four wheels, but i'm new to this whole upgrade thing when it comes to bikes and have a few questions in reference to my '06 Gixxer 600 (just tryin to be Thurro):

What is the diff btw a 525 chain and a 520? Why would you change your chain?

What do rearsets do and what is the diff btwn aftermarket and stock (and plz don't say "big", "huge" etc.)?

Anyone know a local (MIA/Ft. Liquerdale) H.I.D. dealer that I can get some GOOD/Reliable H.I.D.'s from?

Will Kawi wheels fit my gixxer K6 (i think they look :pimp: b/c of the spokes)?

Thank you in advance for your input....

Thurro

terabyte
01-29-2007, 11:32 AM
A 520 chain is thinner. Think of the difference between a bicycle chain and the chain on your GIXXER. Not that much diffrence but you get the idea. Well this chain and sprocket will be lighter having less parasitic losses, netting you more power at the rear wheel. This has the same effect as a set of lighter wheels or a lighter crank pulley on a car. (As far as horse power is concerned.)

Rearsets are so that you can get you foot pegs up higher and gain ground clearance. Mostly only useful at the track but it may help your bike be more comfortable to you. My rear sets are adjustable and I can also move them further back. This little change made my bike a lot more comfortable for me. But I'm also 6 foot and don't fit on jap bikes too comfortably.

Can't help you with the HID's

I'm sure that the Kawa wheels could be made to work but it would probably require machining some adapters and spacers. I'm pretty sure it's not a bolt on affair. If you are going to spend that much time and effort you might better better off looking into some cast aluminum marchesini wheels. (http://www.marchesiniwheels.com/ENG) Although forged would be even stronger and lighter. Lighter wheels will help on a bike even more than on a car. Not only will the bike make more power for the same reason as the chain and sprocket but your bike will handle bumps better and be more flickable from side to side.

Thurro
01-29-2007, 11:57 AM
WOW! Talk about enlightened! Thanks Tera! You get the :thumbs: up in my book no matter what everyone says about you :secret:

:joke:

Thanks man...

Scudman
01-29-2007, 12:20 PM
More info: a 520 chain will wear out faster than a stock chain. Aluminum sprockets are lighter but they do not last half as long. All this cost money and you will not recoup this money at sale time. Wheels typically do not interchange from different brands without modification or machining parts to fit (ask me how I know). Your best performance bet is to become a more proficient rider, do track days. Second best bet is spend some time and money on suspension. Change the oil in the front end, replace rear shock if it is worn. Set up the suspension so that the compresion and rebound dampening actually work properly. Check your tire pressures once in a while. Clean and lube chain. A properly sorted stock bike is way better than a modified bike that is not set up right.

Tusk
01-29-2007, 12:40 PM
Words of wisdom from the master :notworthy:

Snow
01-29-2007, 12:53 PM
Okay, I've been into cars for as long as I can remember and can do alot with four wheels, but i'm new to this whole upgrade thing when it comes to bikes and have a few questions in reference to my '06 Gixxer 600 (just tryin to be Thurro):



What do rearsets do and what is the diff btwn aftermarket and stock (and plz don't say "big", "huge" etc.)?
What is the diff btw a 525 chain and a 520? Why would you change your chain?
Anyone know a local (MIA/Ft. Liquerdale) H.I.D. dealer that I can get some GOOD/Reliable H.I.D.'s from?

Will Kawi wheels fit my gixxer K6 (i think they look :pimp: b/c of the spokes)?

Thank you in advance for your input....

Thurro


What is the diff btw a 525 chain and a 520? Why would you change your chain?

reduces reciprocating mass, better launches. In some cases if you do not get the right one for your bike they will wear faster. Also stay away from Aluminum sprockets, get AFAM Ti sprockets more expensive but last way longer


What do rearsets do and what is the diff btwn aftermarket and stock

After market rear sets provide the ability to be adjusted up / down / froward and rearward.

Anyone know a local (MIA/Ft. Liquerdale) H.I.D. dealer that I can get some GOOD/Reliable H.I.D.'s from?

Will Kawi wheels fit my gixxer K6 (i think they look :pimp: b/c of the spokes)?

don't know but HID's will kill your battery in traffice like SoBE this weekend.

Thurro
01-29-2007, 01:00 PM
More info: a 520 chain will wear out faster than a stock chain. Aluminum sprockets are lighter but they do not last half as long. All this cost money and you will not recoup this money at sale time. Wheels typically do not interchange from different brands without modification or machining parts to fit (ask me how I know). Your best performance bet is to become a more proficient rider, do track days. Second best bet is spend some time and money on suspension. Change the oil in the front end, replace rear shock if it is worn. Set up the suspension so that the compresion and rebound dampening actually work properly. Check your tire pressures once in a while. Clean and lube chain. A properly sorted stock bike is way better than a modified bike that is not set up right.

:man: When do I get to meet the master so I can bask in the ombiance of knowledge?!?!?! I'll be picking your brain a little more...have to conduct an interview...be right back...

What is the diff btw a 525 chain and a 520? Why would you change your chain?

reduces reciprocating mass, better launches. In some cases if you do not get the right one for your bike they will wear faster. Also stay away from Aluminum sprockets, get AFAM Ti sprockets more expensive but last way longer


What do rearsets do and what is the diff btwn aftermarket and stock

After market rear sets provide the ability to be adjusted up / down / froward and rearward.

Anyone know a local (MIA/Ft. Liquerdale) H.I.D. dealer that I can get some GOOD/Reliable H.I.D.'s from?

Will Kawi wheels fit my gixxer K6 (i think they look :pimp: b/c of the spokes)?

don't know but HID's will kill your battery in traffice like SoBE this weekend.

Appreciate the knowledge! HOWEVER, i kannot understand why HID's wld kill a battery...they draw less kurrent than a stock bulb (35 HID as opposed to 55-65 in a stock bulb) AND they have an external amp (the ballast). I think there may be a konnection issue w/ Sobe...Kevlar has a set and he was in traffic with us fine...Kev, kare to komment? (i spell alot w/ K's...sorry, old frat habbit)

Snow
01-29-2007, 01:04 PM
:man: When do I get to meet the master so I can bask in the ombiance of knowledge?!?!?! I'll be picking your brain a little more...have to conduct an interview...be right back...



Appreciate the knowledge! HOWEVER, i kannot understand why HID's wld kill a battery...they draw less kurrent than a stock bulb (35 HID as opposed to 55-65 in a stock bulb) AND they have an external amp (the ballast). I think there may be a konnection issue w/ Sobe...Kevlar has a set and he was in traffic with us fine...Kev, kare to komment? (i spell alot w/ K's...sorry, old frat habbit)

that is what I have always heard. Kev fill us in.

terabyte
01-29-2007, 01:18 PM
WOW! Talk about enlightened! Thanks Tera! You get the :thumbs: up in my book no matter what everyone says about you :secret:

:joke:

Thanks man...


Your very welcome dude. I'm very quirky but I like to help anyway I can.

Scud is right and I forgot to mention that. Thiner chains and aluminum sprockets are garbage. Invest your money on the nut "on" the bike and learn to be a better rider.

I did just as scud said. I took him my forks and shock. He overhauled them and put in new oil. (For my track bike) The only other mod I'm doing to this bike is a nice set of Pilot Powers.

And stock wheels are very durable and cheapest to replace in the case of a mishap.

Kevlar
01-29-2007, 03:33 PM
:man: When do I get to meet the master so I can bask in the ombiance of knowledge?!?!?! I'll be picking your brain a little more...have to conduct an interview...be right back...



Appreciate the knowledge! HOWEVER, i kannot understand why HID's wld kill a battery...they draw less kurrent than a stock bulb (35 HID as opposed to 55-65 in a stock bulb) AND they have an external amp (the ballast). I think there may be a konnection issue w/ Sobe...Kevlar has a set and he was in traffic with us fine...Kev, kare to komment? (i spell alot w/ K's...sorry, old frat habbit)

that is what I have always heard. Kev fill us in.

First ... I've heard that HIDs will kill the battery quickly in stop and go traffic as well as just sitting at railroad crossings. Everytime I get stuck in traffic or at a long stop light, bridge railroad tracks, I get worried and wondering if this will be THE time. Was I worried when we were going through all that stop and go traffic? You betcha...

That being said ... I've never had any problem with mine, and supposedly the '04 GSXRs are more prone to it than the newer '05+ models.

It is true that HIDs draw less current than regular headlights when at operating temperature... 35W vs 65-100W for a stock bulb. The problem with HIDs is they require a huge amount of voltage to get them started and up to operating temp... upwards of 20,000W I believe (hence the booster box). As the bulb gets up to temp, the required voltage drops accordingly.

The point where the electrical system is weakest is before/during starting when the generator isn't generating any voltage and where the starter and HID box are competing for power. The huge zap to the battery could technically kill it, but I haven't had any problems with it.

FYI ... the 05+ GSXRs turn off the headlight when the starter is running... so that is why it is not that big of an issue because the starter and HID are not competing for power, but the battery does get hit twice because the light it on-off and then on again.

terabyte
01-29-2007, 03:41 PM
First ... I've heard that HIDs will kill the battery quickly in stop and go traffic as well as just sitting at railroad crossings. Everytime I get stuck in traffic or at a long stop light, bridge railroad tracks, I get worried and wondering if this will be THE time. Was I worried when we were going through all that stop and go traffic? You betcha... but I've had the HID in there for almost 3 years no with no problem.

That being said ... I've never had any problem with mine, and supposedly the '04 GSXRs are more prone to it than the newer '05+ models.

It is true that HIDs draw less current than regular headlights when at operating temperature... 35W vs 65-100W for a stock bulb. The problem with HIDs is they require a huge amount of voltage to get them started and up to operating temp... upwards of 20,000W I believe (hence the booster box). As the bulb gets up to temp, the required voltage drops accordingly.

The point where the electrical system is weakest is before/during starting when the generator isn't generating any voltage and where the starter and HID box are competing for power. The huge zap to the battery could technically kill it, but I haven't had any problems with it.

FYI ... the 05+ GSXRs turn off the headlight when the starter is running... so that is why it is not that big of an issue because the starter and HID are not competing for power, but the battery does get hit twice because the light it on-off and then on again.

To combat this on an older bike you can just put the light on a manual switch so that you wait till the bike is started to turn it on.

Scudman
01-29-2007, 03:51 PM
As the new bikes are getting lighter I am seeing more bent wheels that are easier to straighten out. This leads me to believe that the lighter stuff is not as durable (not always so but as a general rule true). If you hit a hole or debries on the road the lighter wheels will bend. One must weight the positives and negatives of parts that are put on a bike. Most people feel that race goodies are better than stock and that is true for racing. On the street however the new bikes are so good that tricking them out is more for
show than for practical purposes. Still a blinged out bike is a thing of beauty and wonderfull to see. Of course this is written by a person who shaves allen bolts on a 7 degree angle and then polishes them.

Thurro
01-29-2007, 03:57 PM
More info: a 520 chain will wear out faster than a stock chain. Aluminum sprockets are lighter but they do not last half as long. All this cost money and you will not recoup this money at sale time. Wheels typically do not interchange from different brands without modification or machining parts to fit (ask me how I know). Your best performance bet is to become a more proficient rider, do track days. Second best bet is spend some time and money on suspension. Change the oil in the front end, replace rear shock if it is worn. Set up the suspension so that the compresion and rebound dampening actually work properly. Check your tire pressures once in a while. Clean and lube chain. A properly sorted stock bike is way better than a modified bike that is not set up right.

Okay, where to start...lol
Where is a good place in the MIA/Ft. Laudi area that has curves on closed or less-populated roads? Track money is EXTREMELY hard to come by right..have enough probs paying the mortgage/bike/insurance. I want to be alot better at riding, but I know that is going to take time and riding the bike alot. How do you "set up" the suspension? I know you guys did a bike clinic a while back and everyone was raving about their adjustments according to height/weight, but how? And my tires call for a tire pressure of 36lbs w/o a passenger (never roll duced up anyway); how much should I really be running in them? How often should I clean/lube the chain.
The bike is an '06 gixxer with approx 1600 miles on it. I've changed the oil once @ 500 miles, when should the next one be?

OH, here is a link for the wheels I want to get. they are stock Kawi's for a ZX10.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-ZX10-ZX10R-ZX-10-FRONT-WHEEL-RIM-2006_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35601QQihZ005QQite mZ150085909605QQrdZ1

Sorry for all the questions, but I want to be as proficient as possible at this craft...

terabyte
01-29-2007, 04:01 PM
Okay, where to start...lol
Where is a good place in the MIA/Ft. Laudi area that has curves on closed or less-populated roads? Track money is EXTREMELY hard to come by right..have enough probs paying the mortgage/bike/insurance. I want to be alot better at riding, but I know that is going to take time and riding the bike alot. How do you "set up" the suspension? I know you guys did a bike clinic a while back and everyone was raving about their adjustments according to height/weight, but how? And my tires call for a tire pressure of 36lbs w/o a passenger (never roll duced up anyway); how much should I really be running in them? How often should I clean/lube the chain.
The bike is an '06 gixxer with approx 1600 miles on it. I've changed the oil once @ 500 miles, when should the next one be?

Sorry for all the questions, but I want to be as proficient as possible at this craft...

You can not really take a bike to it's limits on any street. 9 turns will kill you so be careful. I'd change the oil again at 2k miles and go to synthetic at that time. Your engine will be broken in by then. Read this for suspention setup.

http://www.race-tech.com/articles/SuspensionAndSprings.htm

Look into the book "Total Control" and start doing the part of improving the nut on the bike.

Kevlar
01-29-2007, 04:06 PM
Okay, where to start...lol
Where is a good place in the MIA/Ft. Laudi area that has curves on closed or less-populated roads? Track money is EXTREMELY hard to come by right..have enough probs paying the mortgage/bike/insurance. I want to be alot better at riding, but I know that is going to take time and riding the bike alot. How do you "set up" the suspension? I know you guys did a bike clinic a while back and everyone was raving about their adjustments according to height/weight, but how? And my tires call for a tire pressure of 36lbs w/o a passenger (never roll duced up anyway); how much should I really be running in them? How often should I clean/lube the chain.
The bike is an '06 gixxer with approx 1600 miles on it. I've changed the oil once @ 500 miles, when should the next one be?

OH, here is a link for the wheels I want to get. they are stock Kawi's for a ZX10.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-ZX10-ZX10R-ZX-10-FRONT-WHEEL-RIM-2006_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35601QQihZ005QQite mZ150085909605QQrdZ1

Sorry for all the questions, but I want to be as proficient as possible at this craft...

Discussion about oil is like talking about religion, politics or your favorite nascar driver at the dinner table. You'll get a bunch of different responses...

As for the track time ... trust me, don't push it on the street. You see how many POS cars are on the road and all it takes is a few drops of badly placed coolant or oil on the road surface and POOF. Come to the track with me ... save your money. Why do you think I haven't modded my bike anymore. After my one track day, I realized that the bike is more than capable in stock form (it just doesn't look as pretty -- especially with my big huge stock exhaust).

I know whem I had my suspension adjusted, they did it to the best of the stock limits, but to have it even better they told me I'd have to start swapping out parts and oils which got expensive real quick. So I had them adjust my stock suspension best they could without changing parts.

I just checked and I have over 10k miles on my bike. :eek:

terabyte
01-29-2007, 04:07 PM
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/8860/ld29d24ce7ed45866240296cc0.jpg

This is 9 turns btw...

terabyte
01-29-2007, 04:09 PM
Discussion about oil is like talking about religion, politics or your favorite nascar driver at the dinner table. You'll get a bunch of different responses...

As for the track time ... trust me, don't push it on the street. You see how many POS cars are on the road and all it takes is a few drops of badly placed coolant or oil on the road surface and POOF. Come to the track with me ... save your money. Why do you think I haven't modded my bike anymore. After my one track day, I realized that the bike is more than capable in stock form (it just doesn't look as pretty -- especially with my big huge stock exhaust).

I just checked and I have over 10k miles on my bike. :eek:

Very true I was just giving my opinion. I have learned that I myself take other peoples opinion, as many people as I can learn from and them make my own educated choice. If you ask someone what they do and they blow up engines you know what "not" to do. (Yes I know there is a lot more to it than that.)

Kev is right just ride the bike and gain the experience...

dhbiker517
01-29-2007, 04:11 PM
arent the cops all over 9 turns now?

Thurro
01-29-2007, 04:12 PM
Kool...I kinda figured as much about the oil (both responses). I know where 9 turns is now...unfortunately I discovered it b/c my boy passed away their earlier this year (Mike- R.I.P.)

I heard there was a "free" make-shift track in Mia...anyone heard of it? I heard it use to be an old barax or air field that was leveled after hurrican andrew back in '92 (ish). from what I understand, there are alot of bikers that go there with food and camping stuf and the whole nine...

Thurro
01-29-2007, 04:15 PM
cops are all over 9 turns this year from what I hear. I DON'T plan on going there unless its to put some memorial things on the side where Mikey went down. Otherwise, i'm good. I wanna live to get married, have some kids, see them grow up and see some gran-kids...and not from a wheelchair either!

Kevlar
01-29-2007, 04:18 PM
Come to the track ... you know you want to. You can go around corners and down the straights as fast as your confidence will let you go.

HuyneR
01-29-2007, 04:21 PM
stickers always give you a few hp :thumbsup:

Thurro
01-29-2007, 04:28 PM
Come to the track ... you know you want to. You can go around corners and down the straights as fast as your confidence will let you go.

Thanks for the invite...What is GAP anyway? Does it stand for something. I would love to one day race bikes...I use to do it in cars, its in my blood. I understand that it takes time and knowledge to develop the skill necessary to make that happen...not to mention loose some of this extra weight that hopped on @ Christmas...But the skills I have when driving came from YEARS of practicing and gradual increases in horsepower/torque (i.e, went from a Tercel-tercel w/ a Starlet motor(turbo), to an accord (5spd) w/ prelude mtr), to an integra gs-r, to a integra type-r (currently under construction).

Thurro
01-29-2007, 04:30 PM
stickers always give you a few hp :thumbsup:

I heard that too...but I don't wanna be a "ricer" as we call them in the auto world..plenty of stickers and a loud-ass exhaust, i'm straight...slow and show will skills to know...

terabyte
01-29-2007, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the invite...What is GAP anyway? Does it stand for something. I would love to one day race bikes...I use to do it in cars, its in my blood. I understand that it takes time and knowledge to develop the skill necessary to make that happen...not to mention loose some of this extra weight that hopped on @ Christmas...But the skills I have when driving came from YEARS of practicing and gradual increases in horsepower/torque (i.e, went from a Tercel-tercel w/ a Starlet motor(turbo), to an accord (5spd) w/ prelude mtr), to an integra gs-r, to a integra type-r (currently under construction).

the GAP is Deals Gap

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/

Kevlar
01-29-2007, 04:33 PM
I don't think I'm ready for the GAP yet... maybe in the car, but not on a bike. Not to mention it's 14hrs away.

Thurro
01-29-2007, 04:39 PM
Jennings it is...lol :thumbs:

Chiny
01-29-2007, 04:51 PM
Jennings it is...lol :thumbs:
:cheer:

Scudman
01-29-2007, 06:18 PM
Okay, where to start...lol
Where is a good place in the MIA/Ft. Laudi area that has curves on closed or less-populated roads? Track money is EXTREMELY hard to come by right..have enough probs paying the mortgage/bike/insurance. I want to be alot better at riding, but I know that is going to take time and riding the bike alot. How do you "set up" the suspension? I know you guys did a bike clinic a while back and everyone was raving about their adjustments according to height/weight, but how? And my tires call for a tire pressure of 36lbs w/o a passenger (never roll duced up anyway); how much should I really be running in them? How often should I clean/lube the chain.
The bike is an '06 gixxer with approx 1600 miles on it. I've changed the oil once @ 500 miles, when should the next one be?

OH, here is a link for the wheels I want to get. they are stock Kawi's for a ZX10.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/KAWASAKI-ZX10-ZX10R-ZX-10-FRONT-WHEEL-RIM-2006_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35601QQihZ005QQite mZ150085909605QQrdZ1

Sorry for all the questions, but I want to be as proficient as possible at this craft...
On the wheel swap idea, unless you have a machine shop in your garage do not buy the wheels. Things to consider: spacing of brake disks, diameter of brake disks. Space between the wheel bearings and front end. Brake calipers may have to be moved and adapter plates designed and built. All this takes time and money. On the rear wheel sprocket and brake disk clearances and sizes needs to be considered. Cheaper to buy ready made wheels. I have made one wheel out of two but it was not easy. As for adjusting the suspension we had at least 4 free clinics so there should be some experts out there willing to help you. For oil I prefer Shell Rotella full synthetic 4-40 $16 at Walmart and leave it in for 3,000 miles. I use a Pure one filter which is the best oil filter money can buy, only $6.
For chain use WD40 to clean and engine oil for lube. It makes a bit of a mess but my 900RR has the original chain going on 29000 miles. You should clean and lube every 500 miles or when the chain looks lik it needs it.

FLYIN BRIAN
01-29-2007, 06:52 PM
In my many years of being in bikes I have learned the most important mod on a bike is rider skill!! Also think about how long you are going to keep your bike before investing in aftermarket parts. Research the parts and ask the members on the fourm here. They are a great bunch.

Tusk
01-29-2007, 11:18 PM
Come to the track ... you know you want to. You can go around corners and down the straights as fast as your confidence will let you go.

Listen to this man:beer:

Thurro
01-30-2007, 09:30 AM
WOW. Thanks ALOT for all the good advice EVERYONE. I learned alot in a matter of a hours...Oh, just one question that was not answered: How much air pressure should I run in my tires? I run my car tires @ abt 33lbs when it calls for 37. I think the ride is much smoother. Would the same apply for the bike? I figured a blow-out at any speed would be better on a less than full tire than a full one. Correct?

terabyte
01-30-2007, 09:41 AM
WOW. Thanks ALOT for all the good advice EVERYONE. I learned alot in a matter of a hours...Oh, just one question that was not answered: How much air pressure should I run in my tires? I run my car tires @ abt 33lbs when it calls for 37. I think the ride is much smoother. Would the same apply for the bike? I figured a blow-out at any speed would be better on a less than full tire than a full one. Correct?

I'd say until you go out on the track and get a feel for something else you like, run what the manufacture states for that bike.

If your bike it like mine;
36front/42rear

It should say it on the swing arm.

Thurro
01-30-2007, 09:53 AM
I'll double-check, but I think it was 36/36

Kevlar
01-30-2007, 09:54 AM
I run the recommended tire pressure for the time being as I haven't had a chance to sit down and play with tire pressures because it takes longer with the stupid valve stem and the hot rotor during playtime.

I've found tho that running lower than stock doesn't make the bike feel good in my opinion... less friendly to change in direction.

G$ 1000RR
01-30-2007, 09:55 AM
Great info everyone :thumbs:

terabyte
01-30-2007, 09:56 AM
I'll double-check, but I think it was 36/36
Every bike is different but I'm pretty sure you should be at 36/42.

I run the recommended tire pressure for the time being as I haven't had a chance to sit down and play with tire pressures because it takes longer with the stupid valve stem and the hot rotor during playtime.

I've found tho that running lower than stock doesn't make the bike feel good in my opinion... less friendly to change in direction.

I also get a very bouncy feeling when the back is low.

Nile Sista
01-30-2007, 10:28 AM
How long have you actually been riding Thurro?

Thurro
01-30-2007, 10:44 AM
How long have you actually been riding Thurro?

4months, 7 days, 16 hours and 12 minutes...but who's counting??? Second bike thou...the first bike I had for a month and some days before my career as a professional stunter came to a screeeeeaaacchhhhhing hault. I put more miles on that in a month than I have in 4 months with this one.

Nile Sista
01-30-2007, 12:34 PM
Take the advanced rider class, or in miami there is a class called ride like a pro..i want to take it, just been a bit busy...I will try to set it up...get better on the street...as much as you can, if you're unable to do a track day. Take your bike to ray, do the suspension there, it'll make a world of difference to you.

Thurro
01-31-2007, 02:46 PM
Take the advanced rider class, or in miami there is a class called ride like a pro..i want to take it, just been a bit busy...I will try to set it up...get better on the street...as much as you can, if you're unable to do a track day. Take your bike to ray, do the suspension there, it'll make a world of difference to you.


Who's Ray? And how much would that cost?

terabyte
01-31-2007, 02:49 PM
Who's Ray? And how much would that cost?

Ray is scudman.
http://www.cycleracetek.com/

Nile Sista
01-31-2007, 03:14 PM
nope, Ray is RacnRay..he has a shop cycle race tek, here in broward county, one of the nicest most stand up guys in the cycle biz. He's been working on bikes down here for 30 years...he's down in hallandale.. I don't know how much, but he's VERY reasonable. Many people here have taken their bike there.

Nile Sista
01-31-2007, 03:15 PM
Ray is scudman.
http://www.cycleracetek.com/

different guys... but you have the business right, he's racnray

terabyte
01-31-2007, 03:15 PM
nope, Ray is RacnRay..he has a shop cycle race tek, here in broward county, one of the nicest most stand up guys in the cycle biz. He's been working on bikes down here for 30 years...he's down in hallandale.. I don't know how much, but he's VERY reasonable. Many people here have taken their bike there.

opps
I had the right link but wrong screen name.

Scudman is Frank right?

Nile Sista
01-31-2007, 03:35 PM
opps
I had the right link but wrong screen name.

Scudman is Frank right?

maybe....teeeeheee....

terabyte
01-31-2007, 04:23 PM
maybe....teeeeheee....

tease!

Scudman
01-31-2007, 07:48 PM
Scudman is Frank

HamG
02-01-2007, 08:14 AM
I thought Frank is Scudman?! :lol:

terabyte
02-01-2007, 08:16 AM
Frank, thank you for the work on my forks. Money is on it's way to OT and should find it's way to you.

Scudman
02-01-2007, 12:09 PM
Frank, thank you for the work on my forks. Money is on it's way to OT and should find it's way to you.
No problem. Glad I had the fork spring compressor tool as the springs in that fork were super tight. Make sure that you adjust all of the settings as they have changed with the new oil viscosity and oil heigth